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Gatekeeper
On tonight's RM Show, Rachel Maddow took on, and soundly "whipped" a deserving Slease Merchant of the Right Wing Propagandists-, promoted and run by Tim Phillips, who is behind the "Terror Against Americans" and Health Care denigration side show under the banner of AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY that has been pushed about by the MSM, who will NOT substantiate their statements with "facts", ALL THE FACTS.
Cherry picking is cherry picking, unless all is brought forth. Controlling the thoughts of the nation has been the PRIME objective by these NEO-CONS, even to insert repetitive LIES. With out a true MEDIA=investigative journalism without malice, and with full Integrity.

Tonight, Rachel hit it out of the park with bases loaded! This is very different from the normal mantra carried by all networks, including MSNBC to a lesser degree, but still present.

Instead, pundits, quick to talk but without substantiated, fact based, accountable statements [known as "lies, misinformation, and mis direction" ] who have been bought and paid for by the "hate merchants" of multi-billion dollar corporations......these pundits sling BS and lies with impunity, while never getting the "facts of the matter"-ALL THE FACTS before spilling out the mantra of the Neo-Con agenda. There is a GREAT difference between "laisse Faire" Capitalism nof today, and the American capitalism of the 70's. Then, we had a CONGRESS who followed up with full blown investigative committees and Investigative reporters who asked the "tough questions" without reservation. Today, everything , including the MEDIA, is checked by wealth & power. And we are the result...as a broken fearful people.

Just what the elite WANT!


It just goes to show that $$$$$ will buy the "thinking and feelings" of uninformed Americans via the MSM mantra created and directed by the corporate elite, or the upper 1% of the populace. And they call it democracy; freedom of responsible speech[backed by substantiated FACTS, not BS or FEAR mongering] as has been the case for the past couple of decades.

It all really began with the NIXON pardon and Gerald Ford. And has been spiraling downward, ever sense. Shut up the "truth sayers", and democracy is doomed! Just what the robber barons and Wall Street moguls want. NO CHECKS, and certainly an UNBALANCED nation, whose strength lies on its military and secrecy, certainly not its people nor human principles. A shell [ MSM, Religious Institutions, and a corruptive Financial system] is place in the minds of its people, as their security blanket- Not the CHECKS & BALANCES of our Constitution; C&B that are INDEED in place and which are WORKING! They haven't been for SOME TIME.

Rachel, you are a wonder and a diamond in this mire of chancery and secrecy carried on by the MSM and their Neo-Con handlers! Bravo MS. Maddow !!!!! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

tongue.gif : YOU ARE A TRUE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST/REPORTER ! WOW!!!!!!!
chris in sacto
Rachel could hardly contain herself at the end and I'm glad she let him have it at the end. He's a practiced, slick, glib complete liar. One can only hope he progresses as a human being someday and grows a conscience, but I doubt it. Rachel went down a blistering laundry list of projects Tim Phillip's was involved in throughout his career which would make a normal human being slither off the stage to find the nearest church to light a candle in. . .the Mariana Islands rape/abortion/slavery scandal. . .the campaign against Max Clelland in which Clelland was portrayed as uncourageous. . .and on an on. . .

Here's the first interview Rachel did with Phillips a while back. I can't wait for the latest interview to get posted.



lenzy1000
QUOTE (chris in sacto @ Oct 15 2009, 10:34 PM) *
Rachel could hardly contain herself at the end and I'm glad she let him have it at the end. He's a practiced, slick, glib complete liar. One can only hope he progresses as a human being someday and grows a conscience, but I doubt it. Rachel went down a blistering laundry list of projects Tim Phillip's was involved in throughout his career which would make a normal human being slither off the stage to find the nearest church to light a candle in. . .the Mariana Islands rape/abortion/slavery scandal. . .the campaign against Max Clelland in which Clelland was portrayed as uncourageous. . .and on an on. . .

Here's the first interview Rachel did with Phillips a while back. I can't wait for the latest interview to get posted.



I just got done watching it. He sure didn't want to tell us who is behind his "grassroots" organization.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33335050#33336960

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33335050#33337020

Gatekeeper
Please note the Goebbels Principles and What the NEO-CONS have been doing with Media Capitulation for the past 3 decades


Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda

1. Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.
2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.
a. It must issue all the propaganda directives
b. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale
c. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences
3. The propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.
4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and action.
a. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence
b. By openly disseminating propaganda whose content or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions
c. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself
d. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity
5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign
6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.
7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
8. The purpose, content and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.
9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.
10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.
11. Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.
12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.
13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.
b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment
c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness
14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses
b. They must be capable of being easily learned
c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations
d. They must be boomerang-proof
15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.
16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.
a. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat
b. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and which cannot be reduced by people themselves
17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.
a. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated
b. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective
18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.
Based upon "Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda" by Leonard W. Doob published in "Public Opinion and Propaganda; A Book of Readings edited for The Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues."

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"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship….
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." Hermann Goering, as a statement made at the Nuremberg Trial 1945
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"Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
Abraham Lincoln, in an 1864 letter
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"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket, is best described, I believe as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes." SMEDLEY D. BUTLER - 2 time MOH recipient.


Americans to take back the country of PRINCIPLE, INTEGRITY, and JUSTICE must face down the enemy within, not out side our borders!

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Enough Said!

CONGRATS Rachel !!!!!!!!! Keep hitting 400 !
chris in sacto
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c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness
14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.


"Obama-care, Obama-care, Obama-care. . ."
Gatekeeper
QUOTE
When a government fears its people there is liberty. When the people fear their government there is tyranny. -- Thomas Jefferson


Jefferson certainly KNEW what he was talking about, as shown by the past 2 centuries.

QUOTE
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and [i]will persist.”-President Dwight D. Eisenhower , Jan 1961 upon leaving office.[/i]


Just check the history :FAMILY OF SECRETS by Russ Baker or better yet, GEORGE BUSH:The Unauthorized Biography by Webster Tarpley. Both books will knock your socks off with the documentation covered and substantiated within each book.

So WHY have these "culprits", these war CRIMINALS been unscathed by our JUSTICE DEPARTMENT? MEDIA is a major player with public neglect of these men.

The CHECKS & BALANCES which began to be removed UNDER the Reagan-BUSH Administrations, have allowed these "conditions" to be implemented in the psyche of the nation {unaccountability} so these men of "hidden" infamy have gone UNSCATHED due to Corruption of "high places"-all the way to the top! And it looks like it will be continuing with this administration, UNLESS people like RACHEL Maddow bring the truth into the light !

CHECK these 2 Books OUT! You need to go to sources outside the MSM, for the MSM cannot be trusted, as shown by 4 decades of cover-ups. It's really a "joke" what the Neo-Cons have been willing to get behind, for the good of the people laugh.gif ;the CORPORATE Insurance/MIC people that is; not the everyday AMERICAN.

"Don't destroy or tarnish our religious beliefs, but go ahead full bore with the destruction of the human principles and LIVES of those Americans especially the middle class...our freedoms, not WALL STREET nor AIG, nor the BANKS! And look what it has brought upon us....these stalkers and propagandists of the elite! LOOK! lightning.gif


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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." James Madison



Not as it should be, the "enemy within"! scratchhead.gif
Izzzatso
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"Obama-care, Obama-care, Obama-care. . ."

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
** George Bush, President Participates in Social Security Conversation in New York, May 24, 2005.


IVEATCH
QUOTE (Gatekeeper @ Oct 15 2009, 08:53 PM) *
Please note the Goebbels Principles and What the NEO-CONS have been doing with Media Capitulation for the past 3 decades


Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda

1. Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.
2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.
a. It must issue all the propaganda directives
b. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale
c. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences
3. The propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.
4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and action.
a. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence
b. By openly disseminating propaganda whose content or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions
c. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself
d. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity
5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign
6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.
7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
8. The purpose, content and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.
9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.
10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.
11. Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.
12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.
13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.
a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.
b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment
c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness
14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses
b. They must be capable of being easily learned
c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations
d. They must be boomerang-proof
15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.
16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.
a. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat
b. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and which cannot be reduced by people themselves
17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.
a. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated
b. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective
18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.
Based upon "Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda" by Leonard W. Doob published in "Public Opinion and Propaganda; A Book of Readings edited for The Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues."



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Americans to take back the country of PRINCIPLE, INTEGRITY, and JUSTICE must face down the enemy within, not out side our borders!

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Enough Said!

CONGRATS Rachel !!!!!!!!! Keep hitting 400 !


Why is it that both sides of the political scale in the US hate to be compared to Nazis? Could it be that (in both cases) it's just a political cheap shot?

Ms. Maddow did well. I didn't see her short change her interview by using any comparisons to "Nazis". Take a hint from Ms. Maddow about that.
NO U
Rachel did a FANTASTIC job - she cut through all the lies and BS like a hot knife through butter. It's easy to see how this guy could fool average people with his spinning, but Rachel was having none of it.
chris in sacto




You're a parasite!
Gatekeeper
Thanks Chris, for inserting the U Tube video on Rachel versus "the Spin Doctor"! aplaud.gif aplaud.gif aplaud.gif
When spin and BS are confronted by FACTS, All the facts, - before the people's eyes, especially by someone as "gifted" an interviewer as Rachel, "we the people" have the opportunity to throw off the "shackles of the propagandists" whether they be religious, political, or philosophical!

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The question that has come "face to face" with each of us, whether we like it or not is........"what is America, and who or what do we really worship"? hmmmmmm
And the MSM has MUCH to do with this! IMO

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RyanClark
I happened to catch all this live the other night and thought it was fantastic. If this guy really believes it's "grassroots" it really proves just how disconnected these people are from mainstream society. The only admirable thing about him is that he had the decency to stick around for another segment, or that he even came back for another appearance on the show to begin with.
Gatekeeper
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http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=...mp;jumival=4378

Rachel and Keith are the "watchdogs" needed, But we need MUCH MORE! Why was Wilkerson's talk to Samuel Adams on 10/21/2009 NOT CARRIED on all the networks. Rachel has missed this one. We need her to get LW on the show to DISCUSS these statements in detail!

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"I don't pretend to have the answer for you up here, but I do know that Jefferson was right when he said the answer is in the clash of opinion, of idea, debate, and so forth. I don't even see that anymore. Ray's point about the newspapers—well taken, well taken. Where is the debate going on? Where is the discussion going on? Where are the ideas being refined? It isn't in the Congress of the United States. There are people over there who do not even realize that we are bankrupt. They think they can continue to print money because they've been printing money for so long that that is a lifestyle for them. The only way this is going to change is from the ground up, and we would be, let me say as cynically as I can, probably the first democratic republic possessed of an empire, commercial or territorial or otherwise, to resurrect itself from the ashes, because history says we're going there down. That's what history says. I dare you to name a single empire in human history that has survived. It is nowhere written in stone that the American Empire will be exceptional, despite what Madeleine Albright said about us being the exceptional nation. So it's about time we get busy and do everything in our power to make sure that whatever is happening happens so that our posterity—which we seem to have forgotten about, which our founders didn't—so that our posterity does survive with some decent prospects for the future." Lawrence Wilkerson
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