QUOTE (NO U @ Sep 3 2009, 01:06 PM)

I don't share your view. MSNBC knows exactly what Ed gets up to, and if anything he's gotten more ferocious lately towards these corporate bastards. Same thing for Maddow, she regularly exposes corporate malfeasance. If that was the wrong message for MSNBC, they would've been reined in a long time ago. I'd argue that if MSNBC was all about corporate shillery they never would've gone for Maddow, Schultz in the first place, and would ditch Olbermann as well.
I believe you have misunderstood my position. To trust the media, whether MSNBC, CNN, etc is a Mistake. Propaganda works with folks who NEED what it provides. Thus why America is "where she is". We have allowed the repetitious "messages" for years while our children grew up hearing the mantra of the corporatists[MIC, PhARMA, Oil cabal, etc] without forcing their messager
to show the sources and back up the "gaps" in their facts. We just allowed the Reagan/Bush policies and Propaganda to stay the course, even when facts were there to SHOW the absurdity. We just "complied" with the corporate directed and created LIES to change the integrity of government.
Nothing has changed. In fact, it has reached epic proportions. MSNBC is the last of the Mohican's, and from those whom are now chosen to deliver the Message...."more is better". The medial controls in this country hate fact based delivery of all the facts-the news. IMO They function upon ratings, profit share, and a
continuance of governance= NeoCon agenda. We should not be looking so closely at the message, but at the messenger, and the messenger's "intent". No problem when the facts are provided with transparency. The shills cover their
chicanery with accolades of patriotism and national security. This has gotten old, very old....chicken little! Read
Family of Secrets or
George BUSH, Unauthorized Biography
for documented evidence on how government, the United States government has operated under this family of hypocrites. It's no surprise that BUSH cut his teeth on the CIA 60-80s. Much has been discussed in these 2 books with documentation from reliable sources.
Ed Schultz, Rachel and Keith are
heroes of mine because they attack the BS that administrations and corporatists place on our "airwaves"; But that does not mean that I will accept
every and all that leaves their lips. They , as I, are prone to err---"we are human". But they, as far as I can tell,
do NOT purposely continue to push a lie[s] in order to GAIN position. I do believe Rachel, Keith and now ED function to do a great job based upon integrity of facts. Anything else, must be questioned!
I will always look at what the individual says, then go and find out for myself, the validity of their message, based upon FACTS, all the facts. We have to do our homework, that is IF we want to grow straight and strong. We have an obligation to one another to gather facts, and rule out the BS, no matter who delivers it. What has been going on these past 6 months has been highly questionable, due to the appearance of another administration that chooses to PUSH corporate/Neo-Con agendas, rather than regaining INTEGRITY of government......lost under GW and his cabal.
DRUGS, OIL and ARMS [
[b]DOA[/b]] run the corporate world, whether Capitalist, Communist, or an aberration. What makes the difference, are the CHECKS & BALANCES that are in place, IF ANY.
The Reagan Administration really is the time when Milton Friedman's philosophy was put in play, at the expense of the Constitution and the people. And the BUSH family has been right in the "middle" of these under-minings. Where Congresspersons were unwilling to go along, the LOBBYISTS kicked in with huge sums of money and promises to future positions in the VERY lucrative world of Corporate capitalism. Whose going to blow the whistle on these guys. Money is too good. And if that doesn't work, black-mail, threats, etc can be brought in. Then there is the open "threat" such as a plane crash, or a letter of Anthrax arriving at ones mailbox.
Yes! I
love what the true journalists/medial messengers uncorrupted by the corporatists are willing to place on our plates, despite the threats, and corruptive influences that cross their desks.
GO guys; go Rachel.