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almostaphantomhussein
Are there any American owned/made beer companies left?
jlee562
Pyramid, off the top of my head.

Paging Aleman!
Dr Morbius
I don't know, but I saw in this morning's paper that the largest American owned brewery in the country is Samuel Adams.

I used to like Lone Star Beer, from Texas (duh). Also Rattlesnake, same place. That was a very long time ago, though.
gounion
Remember that Miller and Budweiser are largely unionized, even though they are now foreign-owned. So, you are still helping American workers with good jobs.

On another note, Miller and Coors were merged in America, so a portion of Coors is actually being brewed in union facilities now, even though the facility in Golden is still non-union. I don't know what that portion is.

But I had my first Coors beer in a quarter-century last week.

GoU
Dr Morbius
QUOTE(gounion Hussein @ Jul 16 2008, 06:15 PM) *

Remember that Miller and Budweiser are largely unionized, even though they are now foreign-owned. So, you are still helping American workers with good jobs.

On another note, Miller and Coors were merged in America, so a portion of Coors is actually being brewed in union facilities now, even though the facility in Golden is still non-union. I don't know what that portion is.

But I had my first Coors beer in a quarter-century last week.

GoU


Does it still suck?
gounion
QUOTE(Dr Morbius @ Jul 16 2008, 06:19 PM) *

Does it still suck?

Another Liberal elitist comment! wink.gif rofl.gif

It's Nirvana in a bottle. Never really like Bud or Miller.

It was like mother's milk to me. Raised on the stuff.

GoU tongue.gif
almostaphantomhussein
Guess I'll go with Samuel Adams then. Thanks, guys.
dportjoe
You can find now grown up "miro breweries all over the country, there have been lots of mergers bu reigon. Also check local liquior laws you mightr find (or start?) a brew pub. You could always do what started the whole microbrew thing-make your own damn beer, if yoou get good at it you might use it as an auction item for fave causes. The side two of the merger is that 35% of the worlds veer now comes from one company. Oh union guys if you decide to try the product from the new owners it's union made-so I'd say ok for home use once or twice a year but not the Union bash-it tastes sooo good if they don't screw up the shipping. Last words Philly Yeung Leung on tap oldest brewery in America family owned each generation must purchase it from generation before-the bottled stuff was ok but draft was wow. I'll run away and chack on union label now.
jlee562
QUOTE(almostaphantomhussein @ Jul 17 2008, 06:43 AM) *

Guess I'll go with Samuel Adams then. Thanks, guys.


I'll have a Samuel Jackson!
BluesOutbackHusssein
QUOTE(almostaphantomhussein @ Jul 17 2008, 08:43 AM) *

Guess I'll go with Samuel Adams then. Thanks, guys.


American & Beer - in the same sentence?

While supporting union workers is good, much of the product sucks.

[American] Bud is pissy, Coors over-carbonated crap, do they still make that pre-flat Old Miwaukee?,
& Samuel Adams tastes most of all like hairspray probably does: FinalNet in a bottle.

Though the same can be said of some foreign beers. The Becks sold here seems to be reformulated
for the stuff Americans are used to, is over-carbonated & forgettable in the normal variety.

Tried the stuff with lime already contained in the beer? That's pretty horrid.

Killian's is OK, I guess. Not remarkably memorable, but OK.
The top couple Mexican beers are better.

Just my opinion.
BluesOutbackHusssein
QUOTE(dportjoe @ Jul 17 2008, 11:22 AM) *

You can find now grown up "miro breweries all over the country, there have been lots of mergers bu reigon. Also check local liquior laws you mightr find (or start?) a brew pub. You could always do what started the whole microbrew thing-make your own damn beer, if yoou get good at it you might use it as an auction item for fave causes. The side two of the merger is that 35% of the worlds veer now comes from one company. Oh union guys if you decide to try the product from the new owners it's union made-so I'd say ok for home use once or twice a year but not the Union bash-it tastes sooo good if they don't screw up the shipping. Last words Philly Yeung Leung on tap oldest brewery in America family owned each generation must purchase it from generation before-the bottled stuff was ok but draft was wow. I'll run away and chack on union label now.


Are you blaming Cindy McCain's family for bad distribution?
Here I thought it was the beer wasn't all that good at the outset!

It really is about the crap we get in this country.
What passed for coffee was pretty bad for a number of years too. In some cases, they've made the "specialty" coffees bad as well. Or its overpriced.
Why? Its not about the mystique of being from places exotic, nor fancy labels & cute names, though that helps - it doesn't make bad beer better.

Is it like chocolate? The English prefer theirs fudgey. Other places like theirs waxy.
Germany & points east seem to prefer dark & a hint bitter. Americans - like theirs faked from cotton.

If its about the beer: try sometime ---> Moretti La Rossa.
The original uncarbonated Budweiser still made in the Chech Republic (no, not "Chechoslavakia," John).

Urquel.
Plunderer
QUOTE(almostaphantomhussein @ Jul 16 2008, 02:36 PM) *

Are there any American owned/made beer companies left?

Try Redhook ESB, brewed in New Hampshire and Washington.

...My personal favorite...

-P
tritumi
the sam adams summer ale is quality.

but widmer's heffeweissen from portland, or is still my favorite american beer. don;t see it here on the east coast though.
Bernie Local 250
Cincinnati was once blessed with many fine local breweries, but only a few survive in one fasion or another.
One fine Local brew... Christian Moerlein... http://www.christianmoerlein.com/ has a fine brew, and seasonal brews. We are blessed with having the Samuel Adams (Boston Lager) Brewery here near mid town. On a good day I can stand on Central Parkway and smell heaven on earth biggrin.gif
Al Hemate ibn Hussein
QUOTE(BluesOutbackHusssein @ Jul 19 2008, 06:38 AM) *

American & Beer - in the same sentence?

While supporting union workers is good, much of the product sucks.

[American] Bud is pissy, Coors over-carbonated crap, do they still make that pre-flat Old Miwaukee?,
& Samuel Adams tastes most of all like hairspray probably does: FinalNet in a bottle.

Though the same can be said of some foreign beers. The Becks sold here seems to be reformulated
for the stuff Americans are used to, is over-carbonated & forgettable in the normal variety.

Tried the stuff with lime already contained in the beer? That's pretty horrid.

Killian's is OK, I guess. Not remarkably memorable, but OK.
The top couple Mexican beers are better.

Just my opinion.


Killians is a Coors brand.

There are lots of good beers in the US. In my area Capitol Brewery in Madison and Sprecher in Milwaukee are favorites. August Schell in New Ulm, MN is great. It's been operating since 1860 and is more than just a boutique brewery, making both inexpensive supermarket beer and some craftier things. It makes my favorite pilsner.
scoutster
I am a bacardi guy, when it comes to beer either good german brew or small local brewery beers is what I buy. Too much big beer being sold in U.S. (Bud, Miller, ect) tastes like water.

My buddy just brought down some Cold Spring beer that is brewed in his home town ~hour or so north. Good thing he brought down 4 six packs on ice, because he forget to check fuel left in tank and we ended up stranded in middle of lake yesterday.
kinggarbear
Matt Brewing Company is regional, but American.

http://www.saranac.com/page/brewery-history

The Belgian-Brazilian “InBev” has reported that it will not change the Budweiser formula, thus ensuring that Bud will never taste like “beer”. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


aleman
How did I overlook this thread? ohmy.gif

All of the true microbreweries are still American owned. Red Hook was bought out years ago, as was Weinhartd's and most of the other mid-scale breweries.

Personally I like the Deschuttes, Rogue, and Widmer products out of Oregon although there are many other good regional brews available.
almostaphantomhussein
Wow! thanks for all the replies. Most of the beers you mention, I have never heard of, so I will have to go hunting. I'm on the East Coast. Scoutster..didn't you have oars? Beer and oars will get you back in.
J_dogg82
If you live in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana, or Michigan you can get a Point beer from Stevens Point Brewery. Locally owned and opperated right down my street for the last 150 years. They claim they were one of the first Lager producers in the country.

I'm not a big fan of Point Special, which is their best seller. However their Point Amber Bock is excellent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevens_Point_Brewery

http://www.pointbeer.com/brewery.php

It's a pity that Leinenkugel's recently sold out to Miller. They still make great beer in Chippewa Falls WI available in 38 states...

8 miles away there is a new upstart that has been winning medals at the world's biggest beer festivals for years. They can't expand fast enough. I know the brewers and I'm not sure if they are going to try to get huge, but they have the opportunity. They were hobby brewers at first. But you may want to keep your ears open for New Glairus brewing. They have excellent products and they can't keep up with demand as it is...

http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/

I see now you are from the East. Try J.W. Dunadees Honey Brown. It's one of my all time favorites anywhere.
Greengrass

Ommegang Brewery, Belgian style ales.
Hennepin, Rare Vos, Abbey Ale, Three Philosophers

Simply wonderful.

http://www.ommegang.com/index.php?mcat=1&scat=0

AmtrakMatt
My top choices for beer are (in no particular order):

1. Yuengling- made in Pennsylvania
2. Labatts- made in Ontario, Canada
3. Sam Adams- love the Winter Ale!
4. High Falls Brewery- based in Rochester, NY

Yuengling's Black & Tan is a wonderful concoction that is in heavy rotation in my fridge. Yeah, Labatts is Canadian but it's good and Canada has been a nice neighbor for well over a century. Sam Adams needs no explanation. Although High Falls must take the blame for Genny Light (aka muddy water), it also makes some fine products like JW Dundee's Honey Brown and Hefe Fezen, which is a German style beer. I can't wait to try their new porter! drinking.gif


P.S. When it comes to wine, I almost exclusively drink vintages made in the Finger Lakes region of upstate NY.
J_dogg82
QUOTE(AmtrakMatt @ Jul 21 2008, 09:40 PM) *

My top choices for beer are (in no particular order):

1. Yuengling- made in Pennsylvania
2. Labatts- made in Ontario, Canada
3. Sam Adams- love the Winter Ale!
4. High Falls Brewery- based in Rochester, NY

Yuengling's Black & Tan is a wonderful concoction that is in heavy rotation in my fridge. Yeah, Labatts is Canadian but it's good and Canada has been a nice neighbor for well over a century. Sam Adams needs no explanation. Although High Falls must take the blame for Genny Light (aka muddy water), it also makes some fine products like JW Dundee's Honey Brown and Hefe Fezen, which is a German style beer. I can't wait to try their new porter! drinking.gif
P.S. When it comes to wine, I almost exclusively drink vintages made in the Finger Lakes region of upstate NY.

I drink Yuengling often. It's a good beer. So is Labatts Blue (only one I like).
LesK
QUOTE(Dr Morbius @ Jul 16 2008, 06:19 PM) *

Does it still suck?


You know, "regular" Bud was always a last resort, but the premium they are selling now is quite good.
RobHoff
Here in the Great NorthWest we tend to drink quite locally brewed ales, Fish and Dick's breweries are within minutes of the house, and when all else fails Oregon has a cornucopia of breweries besides:

http://www.fishbrewing.com/ http://www.dicksbeer.com/ http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/default.aspx

Cheers,

Rob
tritumi
QUOTE(Les Kern @ Oct 12 2008, 12:04 PM) *

You know, "regular" Bud was always a last resort, but the premium they are selling now is quite good.


the concept of premium bud

somehow feels

like a second round bush supreme court nominee

after the first one

was thrown up
aleman
QUOTE(RobHoff @ Oct 12 2008, 05:24 PM) *

Here in the Great NorthWest we tend to drink quite locally brewed ales, Fish and Dick's breweries are within minutes of the house, and when all else fails Oregon has a cornucopia of breweries besides:

http://www.fishbrewing.com/ http://www.dicksbeer.com/ http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/default.aspx

Cheers,

Rob

I have enjoyed Fish (Trout Stout) and Deschuttes (CinderConeRed) for quite some time. Haven't had any Dick's beers yet, but I notice from their website that they have a local outlet here in Spokane. I'lll check them out!
RobHoff
QUOTE(aleHusseinman @ Oct 13 2008, 08:13 PM) *

I have enjoyed Fish (Trout Stout) and Deschuttes (CinderConeRed) for quite some time. Haven't had any Dick's beers yet, but I notice from their website that they have a local outlet here in Spokane. I'lll check them out!


Highly recommended!! I like Dick's Danger but they have a great selection - I tend to lean towards the stouts cuz I like a beer I can chew - sort of like a loaf of bread in a bottle. I would also recommend something from the smoke house - they have a myriad of sausages, jerky, and pepperonis - my personnal fave is the jalepeno pepperoni.

Rob
aleman
QUOTE(RobHoff @ Oct 13 2008, 09:20 PM) *

Highly recommended!! I like Dick's Danger but they have a great selection - I tend to lean towards the stouts cuz I like a beer I can chew - sort of like a loaf of bread in a bottle. I would also recommend something from the smoke house - they have a myriad of sausages, jerky, and pepperonis - my personnal fave is the jalepeno pepperoni.

Rob

I'll have to wait until I get to your side of the state to sample their meats. In the meantime, my son-in-law is opening and charcuterie restaurant here and I will be an official taster before his wares hit the shelves.

I will try out the rye ale, IPA, and Irish ale for sure. I also tend toward the darker beers and make quite a variety of them myself.
RobHoff
QUOTE(aleHusseinman @ Oct 13 2008, 10:16 PM) *

I'll have to wait until I get to your side of the state to sample their meats. In the meantime, my son-in-law is opening and charcuterie restaurant here and I will be an official taster before his wares hit the shelves.

I will try out the rye ale, IPA, and Irish ale for sure. I also tend toward the darker beers and make quite a variety of them myself.



Yes, I have been meaning on getting back to you on your son's project - my wife's seeds are more of a novelty item - her mission is to help provide funding for animal rescue projects, spay and neuter etc. We do not sell bulk seed, only packets with a pretty high mark up and are still in the start up phase, but we are in contact with many local farmers. I have been thinking about statewide co-ops as far as food production goes and there are quite a few restaurants out there that will do their best to use locally grown products - please keep us informed how his business is faring. I believe you can mail-order from Dick's!

Rob Hoff
lagocasa@gmail.com
almostaphantomhussein
I have tried the Black & Tan and I really do like it. But, because it takes me a month or so to finish a 6 pack.(usually need one while I'm mowing the lawn) it will take some time to get to Sam Adams, etc. Thanks for all the recommendations.
LesK
QUOTE(Plunderer Hussein @ Jul 19 2008, 08:35 AM) *

Try Redhook ESB, brewed in New Hampshire and Washington.

...My personal favorite...

-P


Micro's ARE the way to go. I stopped drinking "big box" beers like Miller and Bud 20 years ago... although I occasionally buy a six of High Life when I have yard work to do and I don't care what the heck goes down on a scorching hot day.
Goose Island (actually a pretty large entity) is great beer, and local for me so it's rarely skanky. Sam Adams for sure.
Anchor Steam when I can find it, Fat Tire fresh, lots more.
We had a micro right here in town that served six different kinds. Sadly, mis-management and some kind of real money trouble closed them down. Damn.
steveironcity
Iron City Brewing- Pittsburgh, PA

http://www.ironcitybrewingcompany.com/Default.aspx
almostaphantomhussein
Anheuser-Busch should be hanged for selling out. NOW they are reportedly going to close American breweries and are selling off the theme parks (In-Bev, that is.) I guess next they will export the Clydesdales to Europe for horse meat!!!
AmtrakMatt
QUOTE(steveironcity @ Nov 17 2008, 11:24 AM) *

Iron City Brewing- Pittsburgh, PA

http://www.ironcitybrewingcompany.com/Default.aspx


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