WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=56494

like we didn't know that....

And since when is worldnetdaily.com considered an actual news site? And since when would I believe a doctor who has his nose buried in the rear ends of Weiner Savage, the junk toting stick figure, and the druggie?

worldnetdaily is just reporting what the Dr. has said....news comes from many different sources but you already know that ... don't you ?

If liberals are crazy, then cue in Patsy Cline!

"Crazy, ... I am crazy..."

I have a background in psychology, and I can clearly see that this is right-wing propaganda dressed as pseudo-science. Why don't we address the psychological breakdown of Marine recruits during boot camp? I have talked to several Marines who went to boot camp and said that they witnessed suicides and attempted suicides, all in the name of creating a brainwashed robot soldier willing to do anything--especially vote Republican. Why don’t we address the increased likelihood of domestic violence perpetrated by Marines and other servicemen, especially after they return from Iraq? I guess all those veterans suffering from PTSD are just liberal whiners who can’t see that George W. Bush is the closest thing to God we will ever have?

Well, I went and checked Google and didn't see this coming from any what I would term as reputable news sites. Or even the big disreputable one, that is, FOX News. It was all from partisan sites that pass stuff off as news.

This post belongs in the Dumpster, as does the book it's about.

There is no such company as "Free World Books, LLC", therefore, it's self-published by the author, who couldn't get an ACTUAL publisher to touch it. And you know when Regnery, publisher of Ann Coulter's books, won't touch it, it's trash.

Your hatred of liberals is astounding, ILGWB. You've just called EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US insane, and you wonder why you aren't universally loved. And here I've been told you are such a nice guy. Explain to me why any of us should now have that opinion of you?

If you want to REALLY understand the liberal mind, read here.

GoU

wow if its not on Google it must not be true....

Well said, GoU! You speak for me, especially in your disappointment of ILGWB -- what a rotten thing for him to post...

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this hateful trash about your "friends" here on the ESSB. You've crossed a line here...

hahaha you make me laugh you think this is a rotten thing for me to post.....have you seen what is tossed around on this board about Republicans I know you have and you call this "ROTTEN" now that is RICH

what a hypocrite......

like the things that have been said about me here, but you speak not in my defense.....

Dr. Lyle Rossiter.... He is a Great American.

Let me put it to you this way, why do you think that this "news" has not been picked up by any credible news organization?

Are you saying the freepers are not news????

Well, the WND article does have a link at the bottom so readers can guy Michael Savage's "Prophetic" book.

You know, if I was going to ask this "Doctor" a question, I think I'd ask him this just to see his response;

And now you are attacking the brave mn and woman that ar protecting your butt.

nice one.

Wow. I just read from people crying about being insulted and yet here is an insult to the Republicans. Double standards abound in abundance on the left I guess. This author might have something, though. Why does the left think that I can't take care of myself. Why do they think they are the only ones that can take care of me. Hillary wrote a book all about that subject. I do believe that it does take a village, but the gov't. is not my village. Republican get accused of interfereing in peoples lives all the time and yet here you guys are inviting the gov't. in. You Dem's cant even get voting taken care of and you think I want you to take care of my health care. Definately a mental disorder.

No one is protecting the mainland U.S. except some Coast Guard, a few Air Force, and a what's left of our National Guard. You seem to forget that most of them are policing the world, especially in that quagmire called Iraq.

Kinda hard to defend someone who posts racist hate speech from White Supremecist websites.

You call every lefty here insane, and then can't see why they don't defend you.

Now THAT'S hilarious!

GoU

This so-called "study" reminds me of a recent "Non Sequitur" cartoon. The cartoon depicts two angry viking armies facing each other, ready to slaughter each other in bloody battle, while in the middle, two soldiers, one from each side, are laying down on the ground, happy and in peaceful contemplation of the beauty of a flower. The caption reads "Guess which ones were deemed insane".

Well, if wanting peace and prosperity, justice and equality are crazy liberal ideas, then by all means, I am crazy and proud of it.

Which reminds me of the old story of a rabble-rousing rebel Jew who 2,000 years ago was condemned to death for doing crazy things like throwing a major tantrum, chasing merchants out of the temple with a whip and proclaiming crazy liberal ideas like loving thy neighbor as you love thyself.

Aloha.

Laughable.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the left thinks.

For the actual facts on how liberals really think.
GoU

What we have here is a classic case of transference projection.

I wish I could find the place where
I read about the neocon denial mechanisms and their irrational beliefs. It was something written years ago say 2003. It is what makes them think that any facts they disagree with are Liberal.

You don't understand what Google does or how Google works, do you?

You know, I've always felt the idea of "Flip Flopping" was bull crap.

Any intelligent person should be able to change their minds when confronted with new facts. The inability to accept facts is what makes the neo-con wing nut mind so inflexible and ignorant of the realities of the world. (See this thread.) The ability to integrate new facts, evolve and change one's mind is what make progress. However, what we should be concerned with is pandering. this is what is implied when one say "Flip Flopping".

Spin master Karl Rove and word smith Frank Luntz can bleep. I'll never flip flop on that.

How is zyglob attacking the servicemen? He's pointing out the lack of care the right wing nuts are willing to give to help our vets who are fighting in Iraq for no good reason. Who being deluded?

I know quite well how Google works I am also smart enough to know that can filter out anything they want so you or I cant see it.....

you are the one thats doesn't understand how they work......

The right wing can't even admit they made a mistake by believing the liar Bush and killing nearly a million people for no good reason. Definitely a mental disorder.

They killed Jeshua ben Josef because he was the legitimate heir to the throne of Israel and was going to overthrow Herod whose family were usurpers. Jeshua had this great idea for a egalitarian socialized economy but the conservatives of his day didn't like the ideas he espoused. They would have killed him anyway since he was the rightful king but...

Did you know that Google was a supporter of net neutrality? That means they wanted to make sure that the internet was not censored or data flow restricted for a price or any other reason.

So you are saying that Google filters data. How come I can find right wing lies and bull crap anytime I search for things? Why is it we could find Dr. Lyle Rossiter when we search? Your argument falls apart.

so if you found the Dr. then it must be true .....you found it on google.......

I never attack Republican fellow citizens, and you should know it, so you again insult me with your name-calling. Your post insults a whole CLASS of citizens -- liberals! I repeat. You should be ashamed, if you know how...

Bullshit. I speak in people's defense -- right or left -- all the time, when I see it. I don't like personal attacks on fellow posters. I do, however, reserve the right to badmouth our elected and Selected leaders when they do and say horrendous things...

Besides, I would add that your original statement was NOT an insult! We have some real problems in our military system that are torturing our young recruits, mentally and physically...

Great post, JR!

Just to clarify, and be honest, Google does blacklist sites...and sometimes for very mundane reasons. It's also very difficult to get removed from the blacklist once in place.

Way back, I had a site that had a registered domain name that served as a redirect. When submitting to google, I accidentally used the redirect domain name instead of the actual server domain. Google automatically blacklisted me for it.

Even after realizing my error and correcting it, it took almost half a year for google to take it off of the blacklist.

-P

If liberalism is a mental disorder, according to Dr. Rossiter....Right-wing conservatism must be chronic insanity, at best a terminal illness~~

the board just went splat on the floor. is it not bad enough that we have mann coulter calling liberals traitors? is it not bad enough that we have savage and the rest of his ilk calling the mental faculties of liberals into question?

ilgwb, this was poor on your part. if it was an attempt at sarcastic humor it failed miserably. if not then it is an insult to a large portion of the board as well as a large protion of the u.s. population. attack positions with logic or even without if you like but this is beneath you or should be.

if it is in response to a similar thread saying conservatives have similar issues then, imo, both threads need to be closed not just shifted to the dumpster.

both threads rise to the level (or sink if you prefer) of personal attack and should be treated by the mods as such.

disgusting.

you know what? Maybe Dr. Rossiter's right! Maybe it's a form of insanity to go against the primal urges of kill and conquer, enslave and rule, steal and cheat. After all, that's what our reptilian brain is all about - survival, sure, but domination of others, for a fact....
If that's the criteria, then I'm mad as a hatter - and damned proud of it!!!!
Sallie

The concept that the OP raises has occasionally been extremely useful, as see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psikhushka

You truly must be mental or at least believe that Democrats are not liberals then. Everything that you posted from that book goes against everything on Hillary and Baracks platform. They are trying to take away personal responsibility and give it to the gov't, trying to take away personal initiative and give it to the gov't, i.e. redistribution of wealth. The way Hillary wants it right out of Carl Marx handbook. I know that sounds a lot like what Rush might say, but if you listen to her it's true. She wants to take money from the rich and give it to the poor. Wow sounds great, until you realize that if it's taken away it takes away the incentive to work to get that money and the people who recieve it won't work hard because it is given to them. I know that welfare is necessary, but the way the dem's want it no one will have to work because mother gov't will give it to them, aint that sweet. NO. Sorry I can do it myself, I am a big boy now and have cut the apron strings. I don't need mother gov't to retie them for me.

Republicans are seeing psychiatry in the same light as the Soviets did, as a means of controlling others, not as a means of helping ill people. They see it as a means to shut up people that disagree with them. I wonder if Vladimir Putin is giving the GOP pointers on this?

since the mods have chosen, so far, to keep this thread open one will direct you to the great compression. little remembered now, it was the post-ww2 era when the highest individual tax rate was 91%. there were far fewer rich but there was a much more enormous middle class. does this mean that we need a return to an upper limit tax rate that high? of course not. but the great compression was the result of the populace getting a chance. that was fdr's doing. the long period of quiet economic growth and stability was also well thought of by the so-called eisenhower republicans. it wasn't until goldwater, the rise of the pnac and the lunatic economics of laffer that we had the republican party of today. you can see the results. growing disparity between rich and poor and disappearing middle class. this is class warfare in it's textbook definition and it is carried on blatantly by the republican party and the conservatives.

Nice fantasy world you have there, bub. It's nothing like reality, but I guess you think it's true.

Clinton and Obama are far more corporate than they are marxist. Your post shows you have no idea what marxism is. Oh, and it's Karl Marx. And contrary to popular belief, he's not one of the Marx Brothers.

GoU

Survival of the fittest process has our intellect to hold our instincts at bay.

How is class warfare carried on by just the republicans? They are part of it yes. Also don't confuse conservatives and republicans. The republican party hasn't acted conservative in quite a while, especially since Bush took office. The democrats are creating a state of dependence on the gov't which further increases the gap in upper and lower. If anybody is creating class warfare it by far has been the left telling everyone that the rich don't pay any taxes and it's all on the shoulders of the lower income. What a load of crap. Try looking up who pays what taxes. And don't look up the conspiracy theorist, look at the actual facts. The biggest contributor to the gap in upper and lower it has been consumers. If they would stop spending what they don't have and paying stupid prices for stuff that is not needed only wanted companies would stop jacking the prices up on everything. CEO's might get the picture if people stop buying their product. I only make $30,000 a year and would very much appreciate it if the gov't would not take so much of it. I can balance my own budget and save my own money. I don't need them to do it for me. Especially since they spend above what they have taken.And that goes for both parties. Social security is going bankrupt and the democrats can't even get this primary election thing figured out how do they think they can take care of health care? I've never seen such a cluster foxtrot. And you say Bush is an idiot. This whole primary election process on the democratic side has been a complete process of stupidity. Another case for mental disorder of liberals. No wonder Howard Dean didn't make it through the primaries. And then the best you could come up with was Kerry? Ha. At least you have better canditates this time, but they are self destructing as well.

By the way I hope this thread isn't stopped it has been a fun debate.

I have lost my respect in you over these last few posts.
You are a sad and disappointing person in my view now.

You're joking, right? Oh wait. You're a Rightie. That means you believe if ordinary people go bankrupt, it's their own fault. But if corporations go bankrupt, due to greed or mismanagement or whatever, oh my gawd, we have to help them. Tax breaks for hedge funds. Tax breaks for companies that off-shore our jobs. Tax breaks for companies that hire illegals.

So, consider this. My former "little sister" is black. (I've been a Big Sister for years, and while she is now too old for the program, we still keep in touch.) She comes from a two-parent home, but her father abandoned the family and still will not pay child support. He also won't help with the mortgage. Her mom is a hard-working person but when her husband left and basically told them all to starve, she had a nervous breakdown and with no health insurance, she owes mega dollars in medical bills. So she got behind on the mortgage payments. Now, she is being evicted. And that is her fault, right? She should have spent less money, right? She should have.... what exactly?

As for people not spending, it's a pernicious rightie myth that the problem is poor people who spend too much. In my "little sister"'s neighbourhood, there are no supermarkets-- just convenience stores with high prices. How is she supposed to get bread and milk-- oh I'm sorry, by your logic, she should just spend less.

Righties are utterly hypocritical about the mantra "people should be independent"-- you guys bail out giant corporations all the time. Individuals who are victims of corporate greed? Why, it's their own fault. Let them learn self-reliance. Shame on you and your party, sir. Such cold-heartedness has destroyed the lives of millions of working poor. If only the honest, decent, hard-working people like my "little sister" got the breaks that the sub-prime mortgage CEOs and the hedge fund CEOs and the bank CEOs get... y'all like to call yourselves pro-family, yet families are being destroyed by your policies, and your response is something about how you cut your mom's apron strings and are self-reliant. How wonderful for you. Now, if only some of the compassion you guys lavish on the big multi-billion dollar conglomerates would trickle down to those who truly need it. Oh but that can't happen. These poor people must learn their lesson. Hmm. Wonder what lesson you want them to learn...