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47of74
I saw a thing at work today that the Department of Homeland Security has stated that there are 60 areas in our country that are at greater risk of terrorist attack.

I saw that, right away I began wondering if it was because they were areas that Republicans thought they needed to hold on to or wanted to win in November. Especially after 2004. IPB ImageOf course our government wouldn't use these kind of things for political advantage.IPB Image
cqsallie Hussein
QUOTE(47of74 @ Feb 2 2008, 02:36 AM) *

I saw a thing at work today that the Department of Homeland Security has stated that there are 60 areas in our country that are at greater risk of terrorist attack.

I saw that, right away I began wondering if it was because they were areas that Republicans thought they needed to hold on to or wanted to win in November. Especially after 2004. IPB ImageOf course our government wouldn't use these kind of things for political advantage.IPB Image


Sarcasm Alert:
Hmmmmm..... I think we've become a little too complacent, doncha know. We're paying way too much attention to this political stuff and it's distracting us from our primary purpose - to be scared. How can the government fight terror if we're not terror-stricken?
We've gotta get back on te ball, here. We're letting Busco down.
Now, where did you say these attacks are likely to occur? Gotta be sure my supply of plastic sheeting and duct tape is at the ready.... deadhorse.gif
Sallie
aleman
Oh stop it! Just get your credit card, go out, and buy something nice for yourself. Remember, we are fighting them over there so don't worry about them coming over here. blink.gif
47of74
QUOTE(cqsallie @ Feb 2 2008, 01:12 AM) *

Sarcasm Alert:
Hmmmmm..... I think we've become a little too complacent, doncha know. We're paying way too much attention to this political stuff and it's distracting us from our primary purpose - to be scared. How can the government fight terror if we're not terror-stricken?
We've gotta get back on te ball, here. We're letting Busco down.
Now, where did you say these attacks are likely to occur? Gotta be sure my supply of plastic sheeting and duct tape is at the ready.... deadhorse.gif
Sallie


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I'm also at the ready! Duck and cover! Right under my bed so I can get away from all those sceeerry tewwowwwists that'll come if Hillary or Barack become the next President.
t42592
Looks like the BFG is still as effective today as it was in 2001. Give me a break! The single most costly conflict to american soil was the invasion of the british during the American Revolution War. After they surrendered, I don't recall us taking the fight to them, invading, and setting up an occupation.

The BFG, or Bush Fear Game, is nothing more than a fear campaign that has been fed by a corporate agenda to sustain the military industrial complex, though its manipulation of media and the press.

It's easy to forget that prior to 9/11/2001, America has had no major conflict on its soil since the civil war. Yet, Bush seems to think that by projecting our forces into the middle east, we'll be safer here.

Fact: Afghanistan was preparing to hand over Bin Laden-- Bush refused to take him into custody. Instead, he opted for the invasion of Afghanistan.

Fact: Iraq had no connection with the attack on 9/11/2001-- Bush invaded, is occupying, and sought to attack Iran, which has no connection with 9/11/2001.

Each time Bush pushes our forces further offshore, he uses the BFG to create fear at home. We have become what we hate the most-- invaders, killers, perhaps even terrorists in the minds of foreigners, and based on what? Protecting our own soil?

No, these scare tactics are useless on veterans that know exactly what war is about, what it accomplishes, and why it is used. It's about disinformation, realstate, and spoils of war, in this case, military industrial complex.
47of74
The same people who today are spouting off about how we have to "fight them over there or we'll be fighting them over here" are the same ones who claimed during Vietnam that the communists would follow us home if we withdrew. I don't recall Hawaii or the western US being subjected to a communist invasion after we left Vietnam.
Bronco Hussein
QUOTE(47of74 @ Feb 3 2008, 12:21 PM) *

The same people who today are spouting off about how we have to "fight them over there or we'll be fighting them over here" are the same ones who claimed during Vietnam that the communists would follow us home if we withdrew. I don't recall Hawaii or the western US being subjected to a communist invasion after we left Vietnam.


you might find this interesting:

Stealing al Qa'ida's Playbook

According to al-Qa'ida sources, the reason we haven't seen another mass casualty attack is that they feel they're winning the battle for the "masses" and that another 9/11-type attack will turn the masses against the movement.




cqsallie Hussein
Thought you might be interested in this quote from Andrew J. Bacevich (a conservative military theorist):
"Holding sway in not one, but several regions of pivotal geopolitcal importance, disdaining the legitimacy of political economic principles other than its own, declaring the existing order to be sacrosanct, asserting unquestioned military supremacy with a globally deployed force configured not for self-defense but for coercion: these are the actions of a nation engaged in the governance of empire." American Empire: The Realities and Consequences of U.S. Diplomacy, page 243. (as quoted by Steve Hiatt in A Game As Old As Empire).
Sallie
tritumi
i'm not going to read this because i am already afraid

seems there are ten new states and we have not been told.
queteimporta
We once had a true leader who told us "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Today, we have a cowardly liar who tells us to "be afraid, be very afraid."
Bronco Hussein
QUOTE(queteimporta @ Mar 13 2008, 09:15 PM) *

We once had a true leader who told us "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Today, we have a cowardly liar who tells us to "be afraid, be very afraid."


Great article in Harpers that made this statement, based on quotes from Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson:


Beware the Government that Rules By Fear

A government that uses fear as a tool to cling to power is an enemy to its own people. It will use fear to undermine the rights of the people and to aggrandize its power over them. It will promise to protect, and will claim that it will take rights and offer security in exchange. But this is a fool’s bargain. A people who will surrender their essential liberties for an illusory measure of security are not worthy of being free. The lesson of Guy Fawkes is this:

It is not the People who should fear the Government, but rather the Government which should fear the People.

And the people standing resolute can make it so. Even in the time of George W. Bush.
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