Received this via email. It says it perfectly. Conservatism unmasked:

Cheap-labor conservatives have gotten into the habit of wrapping themselves in the flag, quoting Jefferson, and holding themselves out as defenders of “American values”. In fact, from the very beginning, cheap-labor forces have opposed and obstructed realization of Jefferson’s dream of equality, democracy and social justice. Here is a short list of examples of cheap-labor conservatives obstructing of those values.

The cheap-labor conservatives:

1. Supported George III in the American Revolution. Fully a third of the population of the colonies didn’t even want independence.

2. Supported protection for the institution of slavery in the Constitutional convention. This included the bizarre insistence that slaves be counted in determining slave state representation in Congress. Slaves were people according to conservative planters, but only for purposes of counting them. Those same interests also prevented regulation of the importation of slaves prior to 1808.

3. Opposed tariffs to protect American manufacturing. Reactionary southern planters failed to grasp the need to develop our own industrial base. They preferred to operate a slave labor driven cash crop economy for the simple reason that they – the wealthy planters that is – profited from economic underdevelopment.

4. Supported “nullification”, which said that states didn’t have to enforce federal laws they didn’t like. This “theory”, such as it was, was in direct contradiction to the provision of the US Constitution that made federal law “the supreme law of the land”.

5. Supported repeal of the Missouri Compromise so as to allow slavery in places like Nebraska and the deserts of New Mexico.

6. Opposed the transcontinental railroad, because it might encourage small farmers who owned no slaves to settle in western territories. Contemporary conservative pundit, Joseph Sobran has dressed up opposition to this as a “principled” stand against “big government” proponents like Henry Clay and Abraham Lincoln.

7. Opposed the Homestead Act for the same reason.

8. Opposed freedom of speech for Southern opponents of slavery. It seems the institution of slavery became so sacred, the conservative southern planters made it a crime to speak out against it. Before the 14th amendment, freedom of speech was not required of the states.

9. Declared – contrary to Jefferson’s dictum that “all men are created equal” – that “the black man has no rights the white man is bound to respect”. This was the holding of Dred Scott v. Sandford, perhaps the single worst opinion in the history of the US Supreme Court.

10. Supported destruction of the union rather than allow Congress to so much as restrict slavery to places where it already existed.

11. Opposed the earliest civil rights legislation to enforce the 14th and 15th amendments.

12. Obstructed, intimidated and harassed newly freed slaves who attempted to exercise their Federal civil rights, including the right to vote.

13. Opposed preserving the union. Northern cheap-labor conservatives, not surprisingly, either actively or tacitly supported southern secession. This should not surprise us since Northern manufacturers were discovering the wonders of “wage slavery”, and didn’t necessarily have a problem with the southern version of “property slavery”.

14. Supported a “mono-metal” currency standard. This policy is what William Jennings Bryant referred to in his famous “Cross of Gold” speech. Little remembered or understood today, this policy led to a deflation that began shortly after 1873, and lasted for a generation – condemning southern and western farmers to poverty that lasted until the New Deal.

15. Supported the violent suppression of early efforts of industrial workers to unionize.

16. Supported the acquisition of foreign colonies in the wake of the Spanish-American war.

17. Supported the armed suppression of Filipino independence.

18. Opposed anti-trust legislation.

19. Opposed child labor laws.

20. Opposed universal free public education. Some of them still do.

21. Opposed literacy for African-American citizens, in particular.

22. Supported the legal theory of “separate but equal”, a sham that led to . . .

23. Supported the establishment of “Jim Crow” in the south.

24. Opposed state laws guaranteeing minimum wages and restricting working hours for industrial workers.

25. Opposed the right to vote for women.

26. Supported prohibition.

27. Opposed the League of Nations – and continue to oppose US participation in the United Nations.

28. Were involved in countless financial and government scandals, including, manipulation of stock prices during the Civil War, rampant cronyism and nepotism during the Grant administration, the Teapot Dome scandal in the 1920’s, Watergate, the Savings and Loan crisis, the present “no bid” contracts for Halliburton – the former employer of the Vice President – and many, many more.

29. Opposed agricultural subsidies, the Tennessee Valley Authority, Rural Electrification, and almost all of the rest of the New Deal.

30. Opposed Social Security.

31. Opposed the Fair Labor Standards Act establishing the eight hour work day and overtime pay.

32. Opposed the National Labor Relations Act guaranteeing workers the right to collectively bargain.

33. Opposed US entry into World War II to fight fascism.

34. Traded with the Nazi’s during the war. Noteworthy cheap-labor conservatives “trading with the enemy” included Henry Ford and one Prescott Bush, father and grandfather to two Presidents.

35. Opposed the GI Bill of Rights.

36. Opposed creation of the United Nations.

37. Opposed the Marshall Plan.

38. Opposed FHA Mortgages.

39. Opposed the creation of Interstate Highways. These had to be billed as the “National Defense Interstate Highway System” to get some of them to go along with it.

40. Opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

41. Opposed the Civil Rights of 1964.

42. Opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

43. Opposed Medicare.

44. Supported both overt and covert intervention, leading to the creation of right-wing dictatorships in Iran, Guatamala, Cuba [before Castro, mind you], Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, the Congo, Chile, Brazil, El Salvador, the Phillipines, Indonesia and many others.

45. Supported the war in Vietnam including “bombing them back to the stone age”.

46. Supported covert and illegal air strikes against Cambodia.

47. Supported domestic “surveillance” of opponents of the war, civil right supporters and other “dissidents” who believed in things like equality and democracy.

48. Opposed the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts.

49. Opposed the Equal Rights Amendment.

50. Supported shifting the tax burden from the top to the middle, and the creation of massive deficits for the purpose of bankrupting the Federal Government.

51. Opposed the act creating “family leave” – unpaid mind you.

52. Opposed and continue to oppose National Health Insurance.

53. Support taxing the wages of working people, but not passive investment income such as dividends and “capital gains”.

54. Support “vouchers” to subsidize parochial and private schools, in order to create a “two tiered” educational system. Remember, they opposed universal public education. See Item # 20, above.

55. Support “free trade” policies that allow US manufacturers to export jobs to third world cesspools.

56. Support the dictatorial regimes in those same third world cesspools.

57. Oppose restrictions on green house gasses and other pollutants.

58. Support “privitization” of Social Security, something they have hated since its inception, and which they have concocted a novel way to get rid of.

59. Oppose government support for the development of alternatives to fossil fuels, but they . . .

60. Support invasion of Middle Eastern countries like Iraq, in order to secure our supply of those same fossil fuels.

Believe it or not, this is a short list. A historian could make a career out of cataloguing all of the many and varied ways cheap-labor conservatives have stood in the way of the American values of equality, democracy, social justice and environment sustainability. The next time a cheap-labor conservative waves the flag, boasts of his “patriotism”, and brays about “American values”, show him this list.

Received this via email. It says it perfectly. Conservatism unmasked:

As I see today's conservatives, and look at their history, I kinda think they really don't believe in democracy. They tend toward monarchy or authoritarianism, they don't like that unions are democratic and love the corporate autocracy, and believe the government should be ran as a corporation.

GoU

so for supporting all of these things,Liberals are labeled as bad for the country.
I think consevatism is a brain disease.

Received this via email. It says it perfectly. Conservatism unmasked:

Giving credit where credit is due:

http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/showthread.php?id=72

Information overload, a common propaganda technique.

Chip

So is thinking that your politics and/or religion makes you better than others.

Chip

Liberal politics are better than conservative politics. Deal with it. Religion is a non-factor in governing the US. The US Constitution, the one and only law of the land, forever guarantees that.

Our nation was built upon liberal politics. I'm waiting for one conservative to rebut my post. I think they won't because they can't.

GoU

of course they won't, they do not have a leg to stand on. the nation was built by radical liberal laissez fairre capitalists!

Actually, no. Otherwise they wouldn't have had tariffs as one of the main sources of income. Please don't try to re-write history.

GoU

1. Supported George III in the American Revolution. Fully a third of the population of the colonies didn’t even want independence.

One of the biggest reasons we had a revolution, was John Hancock. Not exactly a liberal.

history is written by the winners, and, as folks who claim here to be good liberals are quick to advise, doesn't matter anyway. why we even have the proposition stated here that to think a thought is the same as being right.

but to step back from those opinions somewhat to the left of whopee i believe that you are also a supporter of tariffs, does that mean you are - but no, i will make no assumptions...

John Hancock was a reason we had a revolution?

GoU

History DOES matter. I'm just tired of the revisionism on the right, such as the "JFK was a conservative" crap that is being tried on the board right now.

GoU

John Hancock was a reason we had a revolution?

GoU

Yup.

could you have gone for less than a three letter answer?

Okay, so John Hancock was the REASON there was a revolution. He existed, and people said, hey, there's John Hancock. We must have a revolution. Lack of representation, wanting freedom, none of those things were the reason for the revolution. John Hancock was THE REASON.

How rediculous can you get?

GoU

At first only a financier of the growing rebellion, he later became a public critic of British rule. On March 5, 1774, the fourth anniversary of the Boston Massacre, he gave a speech strongly condemning the British. In the same year, he was unanimously elected president of the Provisional Congress of Massachusetts, and presided over its Committee of Safety. Under Hancock, Massachusetts raised bands of "minutemen"—soldiers who pledged to be ready for battle in a minute's notice—and his boycott of tea imported by the British East India Company eventually led to the Boston Tea Party.

Ya or (longer) Yuppers?
You are changing my statements, Again. How rediculous can you get?

My statement:
"John Hancock was a reason we had a revolution?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hancock
Not a person that I would call a liberal. Read up on him. Interesting sort. There are many stories associated with him that would show that he was a capitalist to an extreme but I digress.

There is some argument that if there was not the Boston Massacre, the war would not have happened but the Boston Massacre seems to have been the "Pearl Harbor" "9/11" of their day.

Please, please, please, PROVE that he was A REASON. You've shown that he was a financier and a leader, but I'm waiting to hear how he was A REASON. That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

There were those who wouldn't be called liberals involved. John Adams was another. But Washington, Jefferson and Franklin were decidedly liberal. The Enlightenment was the event that shaped our break with monarchy as a way of government. Remember there were those - conservatives all - that wanted Washington to be a KING.

goU

GoU

In a letter dated July 3, 1776, from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where he was participating in the Second Continental Congress, John Adams, the future second President of the United States, wrote to his wife Abigail Smith Adams at their home in Braintree, Massachusetts:1

"Yesterday the greatest Question was decided, which ever was debated in America, and a greater perhaps, never was or will be decided among Men. A Resolution was passed without one dissenting Colony 'that these united Colonies, are, and of right ought to be free and independent States, and as such, they have, and of Right ought to have full Power to make War, conclude Peace, establish Commerce, and to do all the other Acts and Things, which other States may rightfully do.' You will see in a few days a Declaration setting forth the Causes which have impell'd Us to this mighty Revolution, and the Reasons which will justify it in the Sight of God and Man. A Plan of Confederation will be taken up in a few days."

Being a Leader and a Financier of something, is a reason.

I am glad that you can debunk the first statement also. John Adams did beleive in the Revolution also.

http://www.universalway.org/johnadams.html

One of the biggest reasons we had a revolution, was John Hancock. Not exactly a liberal.

You are changing my statements, Again. How rediculous can you get?

My statement:
"John Hancock was a reason we had a revolution?"

You can't even break the revisionism habit for your own posts...

I see the words "one of the biggest reasons"... in there... and now... you infer... he was just a reason.
It only took a little over 1/2 hour to revise your own history.

This is why I rarely bother to talk to you, outside the genre of insult... cause you make it so easy.

Just for curiosity... what percentage of the 'reason' is the term "one of the biggest reasons".

No, that's being a fanancier and leader. The REASONS for the revolution had nothing to do with a man. Are you saying Martin Luther King Jr. was the REASON for the civil rights movement?

GoU

There has been discussion about, Without John, there may not have been the war. Please read up on him. He was an interesting character.

MLK was a reason for the civil rights movement. Without his preaching and "I have a dream speach", there may never have been the 60s movement.

John promoted the war. Finainced the war. Repeated the story of the Boston Massacre.

Those are reasons for the war.

Without leaders, many things may not happen. But they are not the reason things happen.

And I'm quite a student of history. I find Jefferson, Washington and Franklin to be the real fathers of what our country became.

Oh, that's hilarious.

It's hard to have an honest debate with that. The civil rights movement started long before King, and there were REASONS it happened. Injustice, lynching, lack of freedom, to name a few.

Those are REASONS. Leaders aren't REASONS.

GoU

civil Rights movement started hundreds of years ago.

reason |?r?z?n| noun 1 a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event : the minister resigned for personal reasons | it is hard to know for the simple reason that few records survive. • good or obvious cause to do something : we have reason to celebrate. • Logic a premise of an argument in support of a belief, esp. a minor premise when given after the conclusion.

Without leaders, things do not happen. Without the leaders in the Revoultion, we would have had 1000s of people going in 1000s of directions.

Without leaders, things do not happen. Without the leaders in the Revoultion, we would have had 1000s of people going in 1000s of directions. Nothing would happen.
They are a few of the leaders but not the only ones. I guess we should not include those people who help make my point. Thanks for playing the "I am partisan" game.
civil Rights movement started hundreds of years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights

African-American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968)
For the Black people, some of the more significant parts happened in the 60s. Rosa Park (1955) was also a reason but if one asks who had a more significant part in the movement, MLK would be the answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_t...Rights_Movement
MLK is a significant part of the timeline from the 50s to the 60s.