....I also heard sumthin about a chopper crash, one dead....not on stats yet.

The confirms are now, all up to date.....with two new names.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2344 Confirmed: 2344 Pending: 0
Date Name DOD
04/04/06 Johnson, Ty J. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Sandoval-Flores, Felipe D. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Padillaaleman, Geovani .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Gallagher, Patrick J. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Kim, Kun Y. ....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Procopio, Scott J. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 McIntosh, Eric A. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 St. Germain, Brian R. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Bass, David A. .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Aguilar Jr., Andres .....DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Ehle, Jeremy W. ......DoD Confirmation
04/02/06 Twitchell, Abraham G. .....DoD Confirmation
04/01/06 Devora Garcia, Israel .....DoD Confirmation
04/01/06 Hartwick, Michael L. .....DoD Confirmation
04/01/06 Moshier, Timothy J. ....DoD Confirmation
04/01/06 Clay, Darrell P. ......DoD Confirmation
03/31/06 Beisel, Jacob W. .....DoD Confirmation

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2346 Confirmed: 2346 Pending: 0
Date Name DOD
04/06/06 Edwards, Chase A. DoD Confirmation
04/06/06 Harris, Dustin J. DoD Confirmation

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2348 Confirmed: 2347 Pending: 1
Date Name DOD
04/06/06 Sesker, Daniel L. DoD Confirmation
04/06/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

That makes 1073 days of confusion since the mission was (not) accomplished. We know how many have died. How many have sustained permanent injuries since that date?

I think I put this link on an earlier page....

http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/
American Wounded Official
Total Wounded .............17269

Estimated:
Total Wounded:........... 18000 - 48100

Thanks, Rain. Now 1074 days of mayhem in Iraq since we fulfilled our obligation to the Iraqi people.

1075 daze since idiot boy said his death march was accomplished.




http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2353 Confirmed: 2347 Pending: 6
Date Name DOD
04/09/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/09/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/08/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/08/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/07/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/06/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/06/06 Edwards, Chase A. .....DoD Confirmation

I don't think I have said thiis before, but thanks for posting this in the ProgsOnly forum Rain. This way we can keep a solemn count without fighting off the rhetoric of those who think that we are doing anything here but paying our respects to these brave men and women. These fine Americans deserve our best, not some controversy over whether it is fitting to honor them in this fashion.

1076 days since we won, according to fearless leader.

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2360 Confirmed: 2354 Pending: 6

Date Name DOD
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/10/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/10/06 Gardner, James W. "Will" DoD Confirmation
04/09/06 Love, Joseph I. DoD Confirmation
04/09/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/09/06 Rogers, Gregory S. DoD Confirmation
04/08/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

1076+1=1077 days of Bush claiming that we have won and yet spending billsions in off the budget funding for this war.

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2363 Confirmed: 2356 Pending: 7

Date Name DOD
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/11/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

I remember a few months ago on the Ed show hearing a quote from George Washington about treating the British well after they were prisoners of war. Does anyone out there remember this quote?

I have a misguided conservative friend who emailed me a "Letter of Apology" from a probably made up Ret. Lt. Col. that is basically saying that it is perfectly accepable to torture people if they are prisoners of war. I really wanted that quote to reply with. thanks for your help out there!!! :-)

Isn't it amazing how many people think it's okay to be a torturer, but nobody is signing up to become a torturEE???



Mac

What really gets me is that they don't realize that when we torture or threaten to nuke another country that we are then the terrorists. They don't see the connection.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2368 Confirmed: 2359 Pending: 9
Date Name DOD
04/13/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Interesting that the number listed as wounded has not changed since April 8. I wonder how over a dozen could have died in that time span while no new injuries have been listed.

Now 1079 daze and counting

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2369 Confirmed: 2365 Pending: 4

Date Name DOD
04/13/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

....hmmmm, that is sorta interesting. Will have to keep checking, maybe they only update after a certain point.....I dunno.

Thanks Ale.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2371 Confirmed: 2366 Pending: 5
04/13/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/13/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/13/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 Bandhold, Scott M. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Perez, Stephen Joseph Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 Glimpse, Marcus S. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Calderonascenio, Roland E. DoD Confirmation
04/11/06 Blanco, Joseph A. DoD Confirmation
04/11/06 Costello III, James F. DoD Confirmation
04/11/06 Roehl Jr., George R. DoD Confirmation
04/11/06 Hess, Kenneth D. DoD Confirmation
04/10/06 Lamberson, Randall L. DoD Confirmation

Now confirmed:
04/09/06 Love-Fowler, Joseph I. DoD Confirmation
04/08/06 Creighton, Shawn R. DoD Confirmation

I paid for a ride on the carousel and it hasn't stopped in over three years. That's what I call a bargain. NOT!!!

Imagine how these f*kers felt.............
The list now has to be checked a couple times daily.....so sad.
And rummi keeps dancing.

Three years later, to the day
The shock and awe long gone away
A quagmire yes, that will not rest
That put preemption to the test

A failure from the very start
No exit strategy, aint that smart?
A terror haven on the rise
Upon a promise based on lies

Flimsy Hummers, tinny tombs
Not South Dakota mothers’ wombs
Military might stretched mighty thin
A lose-lose battle none can win

A new air strike to kill and maim
A civil war, insurgents blame
Sectarian violence, big surprise
Democracy in deep disguise

Neocon negligence run amok
Iran’s the menace now, ###### Iraq
Impossible hand-over, sub-standard training
The Coalition of the Waning

Three years later, what has changed?
Iraqi policy still deranged
Mosques in ruin, the Abu Ghraib scandal
A mad mistake too hot to handle

Clinton Fein
http://www.annoy.com/covers/doc.html?DocumentID=100799

Thanks for the reminder of this grim anniversary, Lenzy. We must not be allowed to forget the mayhem that has ensued.

1080 daze since le idiot said the mission of sending our family members on a death march to oblivion.....was "accomplished".



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2371 Confirmed: 2369 Pending: 2
Date Name DOD
04/14/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/13/06 Perez, Stephen Joseph DoD Confirmation
04/13/06 Bachar, Salem DoD Confirmation
04/13/06 Waits, Andrew K. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Glimpse, Marcus S. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Calderon-Ascencio, Roland E. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Great points. Reading Global Class War was reminded how much the neoliberals have to do with this mness, starting with Kerry and Hillary and how hollow their excuses are.

....they did not send troops to this bloodbath.

Another brave soldier is no longer with us.

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2372 Confirmed: 2369 Pending: 3

Date Name DOD
04/14/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

1081 daze since le idiot said his death march was "accomplished".........



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2376 Confirmed: 2369 Pending: 7
Date Name DOD
04/15/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/15/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/15/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/15/06 Sims, Justin Pending Confirmation
04/14/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Still not confirmed:
04/07/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Idiot Wind--Bob Dylan, 1974

Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth,
Blowing down the backroads headin' south.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.

I ran into the fortune-teller, who said beware of lightning that might strike
I haven't known peace and quiet for so long i can't remember what it's like.
There's a lone soldier on the cross, smoke pourin' out of a boxcar door,
You didn't know it, you didn't think it could be done, in the final end he won the wars
After losin' every battle.

I woke up on the roadside, daydreamin' 'bout the way things sometimes are
Visions of your chestnut mare shoot through my head and are makin' me see stars.
You hurt the ones that i love best and cover up the truth with lies.
One day you'll be in the ditch, flies buzzin' around your eyes,
Blood on your saddle.

Idiot wind, blowing through the flowers on your tomb,
Blowing through the curtains in your room.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.

It was gravity which pulled us down and destiny which broke us apart
You tamed the lion in my cage but it just wasn't enough to change my heart.
Now everything's a little upside down, as a matter of fact the wheels have stopped,
What's good is bad, what's bad is good, you'll find out when you reach the top
You're on the bottom.

I noticed at the ceremony, your corrupt ways had finally made you blind
I can't remember your face anymore, your mouth has changed, your eyes
Don't look into mine.
The priest wore black on the seventh day and sat stone-faced while the building
Burned.
I waited for you on the running boards, near the cypress trees, while the springtime
Turned slowly into autumn.

Idiot wind, blowing like a circle around my skull,
From the grand coulee dam to the capitol.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.

[B]I can't feel you anymore, i can't even touch the books you've read
Every time i crawl past your door, i been wishin' i was somebody else instead.
Down the highway, down the tracks, down the road to ecstasy,
I followed you beneath the stars, hounded by your memory
And all your ragin' glory.

I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now i'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt i suffered nor the pain i rise above,
And i'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry.

Idiot wind, blowing through the buttons of our coats,
Blowing through the letters that we wrote.
Idiot wind, blowing through the dust upon our shelves,
We're idiots, babe.
It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves.

What a master Mr. Dylan has been and how has he summed up what he could not predict. I think this verse pretty much says it all. Thanx again, Rain!

1082 daze since our illustrious victory and Iraq.........we are still 8 miles high and awaiting touchdown.

I think it's proper that we count the days since mission not accomplished, not from the date of Lee's surrender, but from the date he enlisted in Bush's cause. The oil is just the lubricant that keeps the nigger hunt running smoothly.

You RW warmonger bastards: Chew on this you chicken hawk coward douches. Oh but you dont care about how many dead, you just care about being echo chambers which makes you totally responsible for these DEATHS.

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2376 Confirmed: 2374 Pending: 2
Date Name DOD
04/15/06 Winslow, Ryan G. DoD Confirmation
04/15/06 Mayorga, Pablo V. DoD Confirmation
04/15/06 Sims, Justin D. DoD Confirmation
04/15/06 Cothran, Derrick J. DoD Confirmation
04/14/06 Settle, Darin T. DoD Confirmation
04/13/06 Perez, Stephen Joseph DoD Confirmation
04/13/06 Waits, Andrew K. DoD Confirmation
04/13/06 Bachar, Salem DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Glimpse, Marcus S. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Calderon-Ascencio, Roland E. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Bandhold, Scott M. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation



http://www.newyorker.com/printables/talk/0..._talk_hertzberg
"....During the long runup to the present war in Iraq, assumptions of this kind came almost universally to be taken for granted. That was the work partly of high officials of the Bush Administration, partly of quasi-governmental outriders like Adelman and Perle, and partly of the neoconservative fedayeen of the op-ed pages and the cable talkathons. In early March, for example, General Richard B. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, serenely anticipated“a short, short conflict.” On the Sunday before the opening “shock and awe” barrage, Vice-President Cheney said that the war would go “relatively quickly,” and that American troops would be “greeted as liberators.” He went on, when asked if the fighting might prove to be long, costly, and bloody, “Well, I don’t think it’s likely to unfold that way.” (As Dana Milbank, a Washington Post White House correspondent, noted, “Cheney has spoken that way for months.”) Perle, still a Defense Policy Board member, though no longer its unpaid (if not exactly unremunerated) chairman, predicted on the eve of the war that it would last no longer than three weeks, adding, “And there is a good chance that it will be less than that.”[COLOR=red] Last summer, he declared that “support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse at the first whiff of gunpowder.” In the February 24th issue of National Review, David Frum, the former “axis of evil” White House speechwriter, wrote that “the Iraq fight itself is probably going to go very, very fast. The shooting should be over within just a very few days from when it starts.”

It truly amazes me every time I hear the lackeys from this administration speak of how well things are going in Iraq. If they are going so well, why isn't it safe for reporters to venture outside the green zone to verify just how swimmingly things are going? Just where the hell is all that good news that we are supposedly not reporting?

The RWrs who support this war are responsible for these Deaths.


I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now i'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt i suffered nor the pain i rise above....(Dylan, Idiot Wind)



All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2377 Confirmed: 2376 Pending: 1
04/16/06 Cubert, Clinton W. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/15/06 Melcher, Mark W. DoD Confirmation

1083 days and our fearless leader is still in a daze without a care in the world.

I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now i'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt i suffered nor the pain i rise above....(Dylan, Idiot Wind)

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2378 Confirmed: 2376 Pending: 2
Date Name DOD
04/18/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again, Bob Dylan

Now the bricks lay on grand street
Where the neon madmen climb.
They all fall there so perfectly,
It all seems so well timed.
An' here i sit so patiently
Waiting to find out what price
You have to pay to get out of
Going through all these things twice.
Oh, mama, can this really be the end,
To be stuck inside of mobile
With the memphis blues again.
--------------------------------------------------------



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2378 Confirmed: 2377 Pending: 1
Date Name DOD
04/18/06 Weikel, Ian P. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

1086 daze humming the tunes and trying to forget what a moron we hvae in charge!

All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2380 Confirmed: 2379 Pending: 1

Date Name DOD
04/20/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

I updated the pending name which had not been printed, here, yet....and Settle hadnt been printed either.



I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now i'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt i suffered nor the pain i rise above....(Dylan, Idiot Wind)



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2380 Confirmed: 2379 Pending: 1
Date Name DOD
04/20/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/19/06 Settle, Robert J. DoD Confirmation
04/12/06 Bandhold, Scott M. DoD Confirmation

1087 daze and there still isn't a permanent government in Iraq.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2385 Confirmed: 2380 Pending: 5

Date Name DOD
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/20/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/19/06 Tinnell, Patrick A. DoD Confirmation

Thanks Ale, We were doing this at the same nearly exact time. I was finding the flowers.


1087 daze of this Idiots Wind.

I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now i'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt i suffered nor the pain i rise above....



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2385 Confirmed: 2380 Pending: 5
edit.

Lets not forget the suicides.



Bob Dylan
Album: Before The Flood
Title: All Along The Watchtower

"there must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief,
"there's too much confusion, i can't get no relief.
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth"

Last year, 83 Army soldiers on active duty committed suicide, 25 while deployed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the Army said. In 2004, 67 soldiers on active duty committed suicide, 14 while deployed for those wars, the Army said.

"no reason to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke, there are many here among us who feel life is but joke"
"We're not alarmed," said Col. Joseph Curtin, a senior Army spokesman at the Pentagon.

In my dream the pipes were playing
In my dream I lost a friend
Come down Gabriel and blow your horn
'Cause some day we will meet again..

Fallen Angel
Casts a shadow up against the sun
If my eyes could see
The spirit of the chosen one....

If you're out there can you touch me
Can you see me I don't know
If you're out there can you reach me
Lay a flower in the snow
(Fallen Angel, Robbie Robertson)



http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
All fatalities with active DOD links have been confirmed by The Department of Defense.
Total: 2389 Confirmed: 2380 Pending: 9
Date Name DOD
04/23/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/23/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/23/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/22/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation
04/20/06 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Pending Confirmation

Ale, you mentioned something about the updates re wounded and I found this on the same site...I doubt the big chart will post for me....not, it wont, but there is a big chart there also.

http://icasualties.org/oif/woundedchart.aspx
These numbers are based on data released by the DoD. This data is updated the first and last week of each month.
Month Total
Mar-03 202
Apr-03 340
May-03 55
Jun-03 147
Jul-03 226
Aug-03 181
Sep-03 247
Oct-03 413
Nov-03 337
Dec-03 261
Jan-04 189
Feb-04 150
Mar-04 323
Apr-04 1212
May-04 757
Jun-04 589
Jul-04 552
Aug-04 895
Sep-04 706
Oct-04 648
Nov-04 1424
Dec-04 544
Jan-05 498
Feb-05 414
Mar-05 371
Apr-05 595
May-05 572
Jun-05 511
Jul-05 476
Aug-05 541
Sep-05 546
Oct-05 605
Nov-05 402
Dec-05 413
Jan-06 286
Feb-06 340
Mar-06 489
Apr-06 12
Total 17469
Copyright 2003-2006 by iCasualties.org

I like this, they dont even show CANADA as having soldiers in the muck, while four died today.

http://icasualties.org/oif/PieCountry.aspx
---------------------------
I wondered if they counted the Cnds as part of us, but they dont.
CBS
In other recent developments:

# Three U.S. soldiers were killed Sunday when their vehicle hit a roadside bomb northwest of Baghdad, the U.S. command said. That brought the number of American troops killed in the Iraqi capital area over the weekend to eight. The latest deaths occurred about 11:30 a.m., the command, without giving further details. Five Americans soldiers died Saturday in bombings in the southern area of the capital. All eight were assigned to the Army's Multinational Brigade-Baghdad which is responsible for security in Baghdad and surrounding areas.

A roadside bomb in Afghanistan killed four Canadian soldiers Saturday north of Kandahar city, the Canadian military said. The attack happened at about 7:30 a.m. as the Canadian forces were patrolling in an armored vehicle in the Shah-Wali-Kot district village of Gomboth, said Canadian military spokesman Lt. Mark MacIntyre.

Thanx, Rain. I was going to check in again for a look and you saved me the trouble. At least they are updating it, although I think it should be daily.

Canada was one of the first nations to sign on when we went into Afghanistan. They saw that as a valid response to 9/11 and have been fighting by our sides every since. Same with the French, although both countries continue to be badmouthed by our "friends" on the right.