Full Version: Act of War by Iran?
I have nothing god to say.
my first parsey
QUOTE(nickbirke @ Mar 6 2006, 04:38 PM)
my first parsey
damn!
QUOTE(jlee562 @ Mar 6 2006, 08:40 PM)
damn!
double damn.
although i was just about to post this same topic. the answer is = yes. we dont have the power to do anything. sadly.
Selling arms is not an act of war.
QUOTE(merickson @ Mar 6 2006, 06:45 PM)
Selling arms is not an act of war.
Uh, YES IT IS. Selling unmarked ARMS that cannot be traced back to the country of origin is an INTERNATIONAL CRIME.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 07:47 PM)
Uh, YES IT IS. Selling unmarked ARMS that cannot be traced back to the country of origin is an INTERNATIONAL CRIME.
How about a link you lying sack of shit.
QUOTE(nickbirke @ Mar 6 2006, 06:47 PM)
How about a link you lying sack of shit.
Kind of lack an education don't you.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 06:37 PM)
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
Isn't this an act of war?
They tried this story last year and it didn't fly then either. Everyone could see the Emglish writing on the labels of the shaped charges.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 07:48 PM)
Kind of lack an education don't you.
Link?
Nice fabrication.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 08:48 PM)
Kind of lack an education don't you.
lol parsnips. you never back up anything you say.
because were that to be the case, we would have formally declared war against the soviet union. not so good sir, not sir. much as we did to the taliban in the 80s, they are supposedly doing to the iraq insurgents now.
QUOTE(nickbirke @ Mar 6 2006, 06:49 PM)
Link?
Nice fabrication.
Nice fabrication.
Its a parsnip rerun
QUOTE(Cigolon @ Mar 6 2006, 07:50 PM)
lol parsnips. you never back up anything you say.
because were that to be the case, we would have formally declared war against the soviet union. not so good sir, not sir. much as we did to the taliban in the 80s, they are supposedly doing to the iraq insurgents now.
because were that to be the case, we would have formally declared war against the soviet union. not so good sir, not sir. much as we did to the taliban in the 80s, they are supposedly doing to the iraq insurgents now.
Yes by his logic we would be on Bin Ladens side in the war on terror.
QUOTE(nickbirke @ Mar 6 2006, 06:49 PM)
Link?
Nice fabrication.
Nice fabrication.
YOu my friend are a real oddity. You seem to know nothing about what you post. You appear to have almost ZERO knowledge that you have learned in your life. Go research it yourself. It is an international crime to sell arms that are not marked by the country of origin.
IDIOT>
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 07:51 PM)
YOu my friend are a real oddity. You seem to know nothing about what you post. You appear to have almost ZERO knowledge that you have learned in your life. Go research it yourself. It is an international crime to sell arms that are not marked by the country of origin.
IDIOT>
IDIOT>
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22I%20th...r2=sp-top&x=wrt
Get off the board you slimeball.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 05:47 PM)
Uh, YES IT IS. Selling unmarked ARMS that cannot be traced back to the country of origin is an INTERNATIONAL CRIME.
International crimes are not nessisarily considered acts of war.
Do you have a link where I can learn more about the international law on this subject?
(Edit, we simulposted, but the link leads me to a Yahoo! poll. Not what I consider a good source of legal information.)
QUOTE(merickson @ Mar 6 2006, 04:52 PM)
International crimes are not nessisarily considered acts of war.
Do you have a link where I can learn more about the international law on this subject?
Do you have a link where I can learn more about the international law on this subject?
Case in point: Iraq Invasion of 2003.
QUOTE(merickson @ Mar 6 2006, 06:52 PM)
International crimes are not nessisarily considered acts of war.
Do you have a link where I can learn more about the international law on this subject?
Do you have a link where I can learn more about the international law on this subject?
Try starting with the Arms Control Association.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
QUOTE(jlee562 @ Mar 6 2006, 08:53 PM)
Case in point: Iraq Invasion of 2003.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 07:54 PM)
Try starting with the Arms Control Association.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
Didnt reagan give arms to Bin Laden?
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 06:51 PM)
YOu my friend are a real oddity. You seem to know nothing about what you post. You appear to have almost ZERO knowledge that you have learned in your life. Go research it yourself. It is an international crime to sell arms that are not marked by the country of origin.
IDIOT>
IDIOT>
So enlighten us with your infinite wisdom, lackey parlor.
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 06:54 PM)
Try starting with the Arms Control Association.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
Then leave and save yourself all that trouble.
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lac qui parle Today, 04:47 PM Post #6
Selling unmarked ARMS that cannot be traced back to the country of origin is an INTERNATIONAL CRIME.
Selling unmarked ARMS that cannot be traced back to the country of origin is an INTERNATIONAL CRIME.
Luckily, all the arms we sent to Afganistan, via Pakistan, were well marked as American manufactured so the Russians had no case against us.
Mac
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 05:37 PM)
ABC News has alerted America to a report by correspondent Brian Ross that has now been posted on its site: "Iraq weapons -- made in Iran?"
ABC reports that military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.
They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.
What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
Isn't this an act of war?
ABC reports that military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.
They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.
What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
Isn't this an act of war?
I have an idea? Why don't you ask that two faced bastard Oliver North about his involvement in Iran Contra.
QUOTE(jimbow8 @ Mar 6 2006, 06:55 PM)
So enlighten us with your infinite wisdom, lackey parlor.
Lackey Parlor
QUOTE(lenzy1000 @ Mar 6 2006, 05:00 PM)
Lackey Parlor
Haha, it's ironic that 'snips would choose French for this username....
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 08:54 PM)
Try starting with the Arms Control Association.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
I just hate educating people that have never had the ambition to do it themselves.
Not to worry-nobody is in danger of getting any education from you.
Now where's my plane ticket?
Dammit, I almost made it in time to get my damned ticket 
QUOTE(lac qui parle @ Mar 6 2006, 07:37 PM)
ABC News has alerted America to a report by correspondent Brian Ross that has now been posted on its site: "Iraq weapons -- made in Iran?"
ABC reports that military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.
They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.
What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
Isn't this an act of war?
ABC reports that military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.
They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.
What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
Isn't this an act of war?
So was 1979, so was 1983, so what's new?
The only thing US Presidents know how to do with Iran is look the other way, be it Carter, Reagan, or Bush.
LPB
QUOTE(JollyRoger @ Mar 6 2006, 08:14 PM)
Not to worry-nobody is in danger of getting any education from you.
Now where's my plane ticket?
Now where's my plane ticket?
Explanation of the plane ticket joke for the newbies
He - he I found one that wasn't deleted.
Iran only wished the US "would look the other way" when it came to their country, as do many other nations in the world that want our military empire off their backs.
Stephen Kinzer wrote a book called, "All the Shah's Men," about how the US overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran (Mossadegh) and installed the Shah who terrorized thousands of Iranians for years. In fact, the Ayatollah's brother was killed by the Shah.
When the US destroys nationalist movements, it's not unpredictable that relgious fundamentalist movements fill in the gaps. As governments are thrown into chaos, or focus more on repressing their populations, other groupings will arise and provide things that a democratic government would've. It's not dissimilar to what is going on in this country, as government is destroyed by the "aristocracy of corporations" that Thomas Jefferson warned us about, a reactionary fundamentalist movement is meeting the needs of all sorts of financially desperate and intellectually vulnerable people.
One of the leading thinkers on this issue is
http://www.chipberlet.blogspot.com
Regarding Iran, they'd be foolish not to try to bring harm to the forces that have invaded a neighboring country. It's called "forward defense." A strategy our masters of war employ on a regular basis. If our forces had been greeted with sweets and flowers, they'd probably be dropping DU and cluster bombs on Iran already; but the neocon's imperial plans have hit resistance.
War sucks. And if people want to bring a halt to the deaths of US troops, and the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis, end the war.
http://www.internationalanswer.org
Stephen Kinzer wrote a book called, "All the Shah's Men," about how the US overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran (Mossadegh) and installed the Shah who terrorized thousands of Iranians for years. In fact, the Ayatollah's brother was killed by the Shah.
When the US destroys nationalist movements, it's not unpredictable that relgious fundamentalist movements fill in the gaps. As governments are thrown into chaos, or focus more on repressing their populations, other groupings will arise and provide things that a democratic government would've. It's not dissimilar to what is going on in this country, as government is destroyed by the "aristocracy of corporations" that Thomas Jefferson warned us about, a reactionary fundamentalist movement is meeting the needs of all sorts of financially desperate and intellectually vulnerable people.
One of the leading thinkers on this issue is
http://www.chipberlet.blogspot.com
Regarding Iran, they'd be foolish not to try to bring harm to the forces that have invaded a neighboring country. It's called "forward defense." A strategy our masters of war employ on a regular basis. If our forces had been greeted with sweets and flowers, they'd probably be dropping DU and cluster bombs on Iran already; but the neocon's imperial plans have hit resistance.
War sucks. And if people want to bring a halt to the deaths of US troops, and the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis, end the war.
http://www.internationalanswer.org
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